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lovetherod
09-14-2009, 12:30 PM
Recently I bought a 12" dildo and a friend and I have been working for the past week or 2 to try and get me to take it all. So far I've managed to take about 8", the deepest I've ever gone, and then it sort of stops and I can feel it pushing against something, so I'm assuming it's my sigmoid. I've read all the stories about the "pleasure pit" that's beyond the sigmoid and in the colon and I *really* want to get past it and feel it for myself. When we try I'm usually on my back, because it's the most comfortable position for me and we seem to go deeper easier. I've tried the 'left side with my leg bent to my chest' position but it didn't really work, unless I was lying on my wrong side. Can anyone give me any more tips as to what I can do to get into my colon? Thanks guys.:o

gooseneck
09-14-2009, 02:34 PM
Lovetherod,

I am an addicted depth player so I can give you some advise for going deeper.First of all you didn't mention the diameter of the dildo.Its impossible for a depth beginner to start with a 5cm or 6cm diameter dildo cause its more than likely that he will hurt himself.The best way to start into depth play is with a very flexible (a double header is a good choice) with a diameter of about 3cm.But if money is not an issue your best choice is the colon snake or colonaconda which are hollow and you can inject lube through them!When you manage to master these type of toys at a depth of around 35cm then you can move on with bigger toys.You have to know that you must select toys slightly bigger cause a small increase in diameter is a big increase in circumfurance.
The other very important aspect is the lubrication.Personaly,I start with a very small amount of baking soda diluted in water so my ass starts produce mucus (be carefull,a big amount of soda can cause you to bleed!!) and as a lube I use K lube powder with great results.It is important that you inject lube with a syringe before you start playing and also lube the toys very well.
One other very important thing is that you have to be extremely patient in order to relax the sigmoid colon and the puborectal sling.When you rush the procedure you create stress which is a no no for depth play.This part of the colon needs to be trained like you trained your anus,slowly and gently.
Cleaning is one more thing to give attention.When playing deep you need a clean deep also.I clean myself with a shower shot.A deep cleaning takes me about 1.5 to 2 hours.There must be no residues in the upper curves cause you may tear up your colon!
Finally,it is extremely important to know that most of the accidents have to do with the sigmoid curve.You have to be very carefull or you may end up with a perforated colon.The best guide is to listen to what your colon tells you.In anal play and mainly in depth play you must not feel any pain or discomfortness.When you feel so that means that something is wrong and you have to slow things down or continue with a smaller toy or even stop the session and relax.I hope that I helped you!

AtlantaB
09-14-2009, 11:20 PM
^^^^
Excellent advice. Apart from the baking soda, I use all these techniques and now regularly enjoy being fisted to the elbow. Going to this depth though is something you slowly build up and does not happen overnight!

gooseneck
09-15-2009, 01:16 AM
Atlanta B,

I am glad we use the same techniques!As for the soda,I wasn't using it either until I read some threads about it and decided to give it a try.It is a great way to enhance lubrication but you have to be extremely careful with the dosage.Its better to start small (I use 1/4 of a teaspoon most of the time) and see the results.What you achive with this technique is that you keep the J lube or K lube wet all the time and the result is increased sliperiness.

SuperFist
09-15-2009, 03:16 AM
Try jacking the dildo hard over to the right while pushing it in.
It will allow the colon to align itself with the lower intestine to get past the sigmoid.

Sf.

AtlantaB
09-15-2009, 11:21 PM
Another tip is to try using your internal muscles to push down hard on the dildo. Like you want to crap it out while using your hand to keep it in place. This has the effect of slightly realigning the intestine.
Then retract the dildo a couple of inches and try pushing it back in. You will find that it often goes clean round the bend (Harpic). :eek:

TxBiguy1
09-16-2009, 02:17 AM
I have been wanting to go for depth now too after taking what I think is a big enough plug for me, about 3.5"s around. I have about an 18" double headed dildo that I have been practicing with. I tried all the different postitions, and the best for me is to sit on it with it curved in front of me slowly inching it up inside until it slides over the hump, just makes things easier on me, and I know everyone has different body types. I have gotten about 15"s inside me so far, and hope to get the whole thing inside soon. Good luck!

lovetherod
09-16-2009, 05:03 AM
Thanks a lot for the tips everyone, keep them coming haha :tongue: We'll try again soon - I really want to straighten it out and go deep so bad... :biggrin:

Try jacking the dildo hard over to the right while pushing it in.
It will allow the colon to align itself with the lower intestine to get past the sigmoid.

Sf.
Wouldn't this damage my insides?

arseplay
09-16-2009, 06:53 PM
interesting thread!

I often wonder - at what depth is the 'average' sigmoid ?

Having played for years there has always been gradual improvement in depth, but not a quick as width.

I can get about 12 up there and feel as if I've gone though something, but then it seems to stop again - not sure if i'm half through/round the 's' bend or what really...

Once through do toys/arms slide further up easily again as per the outer rings.

AtlantaB
09-16-2009, 08:11 PM
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_rectum_length

This answer suggests 10 to 15 cm, or 4 to 6 inches. That means that your average 12 inch double dong when fully inserted will already be out of the top of the rectum and poking past the sigmoid bend.

timff
09-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Great to read all the above reply to" going deeper" As i too am trying to do that and so want to. I'm at about 9" of depth I guess with a measrement of 7" around , which might be a bit wide for me I'm thinking ?? but am stuck there and not able to take more yet.Any tipe etc be great to know ??

Thanks Timff

Brosnan
09-16-2009, 10:57 PM
can get my double ender in about 16ins now with patence n lube now hitting a wall so to speak. It does require a very deep clean before starting which is almost as enjoyable and the dildo.

arseplay
09-17-2009, 08:13 AM
Interesting, for some reason I thought it would be further up that what is described above/in the link.

Guess I must be through to some extent then and getting stuck a little further up. Definitely not at the Transverse, and know it's all clean up there. .... guess it may be the top of the 's' bend or are there more spincters as you go up? On the b/f I can feel something tight as I work up him

AtlantaB
09-18-2009, 12:39 AM
Interesting, for some reason I thought it would be further up that what is described above/in the link.

Guess I must be through to some extent then and getting stuck a little further up. Definitely not at the Transverse, and know it's all clean up there. .... guess it may be the top of the 's' bend or are there more spincters as you go up? On the b/f I can feel something tight as I work up him

No more sphincters but some pretty sharp bends. There is also (or at least I have) a narrowing where the sigmoid goes over into the transverse colon. My partner can get her fingers into the transverse but not her whole hand.

mikegring
09-19-2009, 02:30 PM
like many others i am trying to deep into the colon, started with a thin double ender about 1 1'2" diameter then up to a 2" can get this in about 15 -16" then stops against something, when i had a colonoscopy? it was interesting watching the camera in beautiful colour going around, and what seemed to be a metre of camera going in, the consultant said i had some difficult bends to get get around so perhaps this is my problem?
can just about get a 2 1/2" into the second passage a few inches, then i feel like i want to crap, but have cleaned out before my play. longing for the day i can take a hand in deep have no problem taking a 3 1/2 dildo in my ass about 10" or a fist almost managed two in once

str8jkt
09-19-2009, 04:20 PM
No more sphincters but some pretty sharp bends. There is also (or at least I have) a narrowing where the sigmoid goes over into the transverse colon. My partner can get her fingers into the transverse but not her whole hand.


My wife too, working on getting her hand in... lots of training BUTT it's fun.

lovetherod
09-20-2009, 12:20 AM
Well, I did it! :D I finally managed to take the whole 12". I was reading a topic on another forum where people where discussing the longest objects they've put up their ass, and I sort of got hyper horny and desperate to take something deep, almost like my colon needed something inside it lol. And I definitely think that's the key to getting past the sigmoid now - you can't just want it, you have to need it.

So for those of you having difficulty getting into your colon, I'll describe how I did it and hope it helps you:


First of all, like I said, your body has to *need* something that deep in it, so spend some time looking at porn or reading stories about deep penetration and get yourself worked up.
Then it was time for me to clean myself out. I only have an enema bulb so it's not ideal for deep cleaning, but I started by squirting 2 full bulbs of water up my ass and worked up to 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. I guess your muscles either stretch or get used to the feeling of the water because it get's easier to hold and you can take more as time goes by. To get the water as deep as possible I stood in an upside-down V in the shower, which pulled the water deeper into my intestines.
Next, using the same enema bulb, I injected about mouthful of lube into my ass and rolled onto my shoulders with my feet on the floor, so again I'm upside-down and the lube travels deeper. I stayed like this for a few minutes to make sure the lube reached my sigmoid.
Next I setup a really thick blanket in my lounge room. It's really important to make sure you're 100% comfortable when doing this I find. Laying on my left side on the blanket, I had my right leg completely straight and my left leg raised slightly (resting on my coffee table) and bent at about a 45 degree angle. Again, make sure you're completely comfortable, you shouldn't feel any muscle tension at all.
After lubing up my 12"er, I inserted it about 8" until I could feel it had reached my sigmoid. While deep breathing slowly in and out, place a gentle yet firm pressure on the sigmoid. At this stage I wasn't trying to push through, this is to relax the sigmoid and get used to the feeling of having something up there. I kept this up for about 5 minutes.
Relax the pressure on your sigmoid slightly and start to slightly thrust in and out, placing pressure on the in stroke. I literally moved my dildo in and out no more then a centimetre. When you breathe in slowly, pull back on the dildo; as you breathe out slowly, push the dildo back in while pushing down with your ass as if you're taking a shit. I found that twisting the dildo helped work it around the bend.
Then suddenly I felt my intestine straighten out and align, and I slipped past the sigmoid and into my colon :D it's an incredible feeling, both physically and mentally knowing that you have something that deep.


So thanks a lot for your tips and advice everyone. I hope mine can help those of you who are still trying. :)

AtlantaB
09-21-2009, 01:36 AM
Congratulations. Now that you have made that first breakthrough you will find it gets easier each time you try!

lovetherod
09-22-2009, 03:57 AM
Yeah I already have! It's such an awesome feeling popping it back and forth through the sigmoid :D I might work on getting into my transverse next...

crotchshaver
09-23-2009, 08:36 AM
Just to clarify:

The rectum connects to the Sigmoid colon, about 8-10 inches up in most people.

The Sigmoid connects to the Descending colon, about 14-15 inches up from the rectum in most people. The Descending colon runs up and down the left side of our bodies. It is named the Descending colon because the waste it's designed to handle goes DOWN to the Sigmoid.

The fists and toys that we are trying to get in are going UP in the opposite direction from the waste. The Descending colon connects to the Transverse colon more that 2 feet up from the rectum. The Transverse colon goes across the body just below the bottom of the rib cage. It carries the waste from the person's right to the person's left side.

So generally speaking, most of the photos you see of deep penetration to about 2-4 inches shy of the elbow are into the Sigmoid and stopped at the bend from the Sigmoid into the Descending colon and unable to negotiate the bend. The rare photos we see of guys who can take it past the elbow are getting it past the bend into the Descending colon. The extremely rare photos of someone taking an arm almost to the shoulder are getting the hand to the bend where the Descending and Transverse colons meet.

AtlantaB
09-24-2009, 01:49 AM
Here's a picture


http://www.colonrectal.org/corp/images/anatomy_colon_color.gif

hballman12
09-24-2009, 03:01 AM
I have been working on depth, too. Love it. But it is slow going. I have found that relaxation is very important.

I have been playing with a buddy who is an experienced top and has small hands. He was in me the other day to a place I have trouble passing, which I figured was the transition from the sigmoid to the descending colon, and he said that was correct. He told me it was tight and fixed in position, but that, with practice and gentle play, he thought I would open up. He has had the same experience with several other bottoms.

I know I have taken toys past this point, and I have had a hand past a few times, but not consistently. I know this point is where most injuries occur as it is fixed in position, so I am very careful as is friend.

How long has it taken others to be able to comfortably do depth play? Months, years?

lovetherod
09-24-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks a lot for that info crotchshaver :) Is it possible to get into the ascending colon? Has anyone ever done that?

AtlantaB
09-24-2009, 04:45 PM
Hi hballman

It's five years now since I first took a fist. These days my partner can go in into the elbow without much difficulty.
The process of going deeper still seems to be going on, although more slowly.
These days I can work thick dildos in to a depth of 12-13 inches in less than 30 minutes with the aid of a little lube. No poppers required.
A fisting orgasm usually arrives within 3 or 4 minutes of starting fisting.
None of this happened over night. It took several months before I was finally fisted by my boyfriend. And even after being fisted I could only push a large dildo in a few inches.
So as with everything gentle repeated practice will eventually get you where you want to go.
The first time I took the fist to the elbow was about 3 years after first being fisted.

crotchshaver
09-26-2009, 08:17 AM
Is it possible to get into the ascending colon? Has anyone ever done that?

Certainly not with a human hand. With a flexible, narrow tube like a colon snake it might be possible to get something into the ascending colon. Just look at the diagram AtlantaB posted. The best that can be hoped for if the Sigmoid can be relaxed is to get the hand and arm up into the descending colon. There's no way a human arm can twist around from the descending colon into the transverse colon, much less across it and down into the ascending colon.

unknownfist
03-20-2010, 05:02 PM
thanks everyone for the info. small frame here can take a gooseneck to 12" and then hits something. have a 3" dildo i can take to about 9" still trying for a bit more to match the goosenecks depth. have had a fist in to a bit past wrist so maybe 1/3 of a forearm, really want to see it almost to the elbow

AtlantaB
03-20-2010, 07:29 PM
Just enjoy the ride!