[fucking machine] if you had the money, which one would you buy?

[injegaatje76]

If you had the money, which one would you buy?

1. www orgasmalley com / kong.htm
2. www orgasmalley com / stallionxl.htm

The first one does any hole at any speed. It doesn't care if it's too tight, it will plow it anyway. :eek:

The second looks like a train at full speed. Just by looking at it you'll know what's going to happen next and that it ain't going to be pretty. :biggrin:

Of course I really should be investing in a car. But then again public transport will do for the next couple of years, too.

(The machines are from orgasmalley. I'm not allowed to post links yet)

[crackstuffer]

we have the powertool box fucking machine..its fun to use

[hole4hand]

I was hoping someone would discuss this
I have been thinking about maybe getting one wasnt sure what i would enjoy more the milking machine or fucking machine and which fucking machine be best buy heres a couple links i found http://www.kenstwistedmind.com/Fucking-Machines/KTM-109.html
http://www.extremerestraints.com/fucking-machines_48/the-toolbox-fucking-machine_335.html
milking machine venus 2000 http://www.sybian.com/index.html?set=yes
which one would you recommend ?

[crackstuffer]

http://www.extremerestraints.com/fucking-machines_48/the-power-box-fucking-machine-best-buy_612.html

this is the one we have..recently brought some new new dildos for it.. had gr8 fun the other night with it.. next time plan to film it in use..def worth buying.

[hole4hand]

thanks crackstuffer i was wondering about that one... does it stay in place by it self or do you have to tie ( or weigh) it down? Looks like it would be easier to store and take with you and much cheaper than the other one

[injegaatje76]

My $0.02

hole4hand
- Robo Cock $675.00. Looks fair if you look at the specs. There's no picture of the mechanical guts, so it's hard to say if the mechanics 'feel' right in comparison with other machines.
- The Toolbox Fucking Machine $740.00. Very little useful information actually. Would not buy with this little info. Then there're only 2 speed settings.
- Sybian. If you mean the Sybian for woman, then I think it's a bit week and a bit on the slow side with 2 strokes per second. Would not use it for ass fucking.

crackstuffer
- The Power Box Fucking Machine $449.00. As little info as the $740 Toolbox Fucking Machine. So I would not buy it from the specs alone. But I do not have any machine myself, so I better stick with the posts of crackstuffer and he says it's a good buy.

My $0.02 about fucking machines (from surfing the web).

OrgasmAlley says you need at least 20 in-lbs of torque.

So, if I'm right then it is like this:

If the stroke length is 8 inch, the lever is half of that so 4 inch. This means that at its weakest point of the stroke, the machine pushes the dildo with 5 lbs of force. So imagine stacking a few books on top of the dildo. That amount of force. If the stroke is shorter, the force is greater. But at max stroke setting and a tight hole, the machine may stall if it hasn't enough torque.

20 in-lbs / 4 inch = 5 lbs (about 2.27 kilograms)

Then there's also low speed. Motors in general do not perform very well at low speeds. So if you want to be fucked slowly at long stroke lenghts, a high torque rating is even more important.

I think the HP rating isn't that interesting a parameter (it is a combination of torque and SPM). But torque and the max number of strokes per minute are. So for torque you'll start somewhere in the Stallion range (32 in-lbs). At its weakest point this is equivalent to a 8 lbs (3.63 kg) pile of books pushing the dildo up your arse. I think that an 8 inch stroke is respectable, but maybe I want more later. So that's when Kong enters the picture. It's just as expensive and over twice as powerful (but I think the StallionXL looks better).

I forgot to say that speed control is important to me. I've built a fucking machine once (I built it in an evening and it wasn't very good, it was just to try out) and I found that speed control was very important. So I want that. And the two machines from OrgasmAlley have this speed control, so that's perfect.

And my final consideration is that these machines are very expensive anyway (especially if you do not live in the US and have to import it). So I feel better spend the money once and buy right the first time and never grow out of it.

In conclusion, what I'm looking for is this (or more):
32 in-lbs torque
8 inch stroke
180 strokes per minute
(of course then there's also other stuff to consider, like noise and size. But apart from that.)

[crackstuffer]

i was lucky, i was in the right place right time...some guy was selling his, so i grab it..managed to get it for £125 ..bit a bargain, and in fully working order..just over a year old, he brought it from extreme restraints..have since brought some new toys for it..still working on the height problem..but has been fun playing with it... always been interested in having one, but like some, the price has always been an issue.

[injegaatje76]

That is a good deal. Did you ask why he wanted to sell it it? I've once seen a stallion for offer in the netherlands but it was still €1000. I did not get an answer of why he was selling it and at the time I didn't have the opertunity to buy.

What's difficult about the height problem? Can't it be simply put on a plateau? Maybe I'm underestimating this.

Do you find it powerful enough? What size of dildos do you use and what stroke length? I wish there was some more info on the site. 4.5 amps doesn't mean too much.

[crackstuffer]

he needed some cash..dildos ive used so far are 9inch an 9.5 inch, stroke is fine..60 or 80 strokes a min fast enough..as for the height issue, angle etc so will try in the sling next time

[fistmegood]

Can you get good cash for your used dildos of the guy who used it is really hot? I have a shit load of my BF's dildos that I need to unload.

[alongeasy]

why dont u buy both milking and fucking machine. U can either play both at the same time or only one per time. But feeling your cock being suck and squeeze while your hole being fuck rapidly is an extreme pleasure.

[injegaatje76]

They're both fucking machines. A fleshlight or something equivalent does not need such a heavy machine.

[fistmegood]

I would buy any of them! anything that fuks my ass is a good thing

[injegaatje76]

My machine arrived yesterday. I was at work tracking the package as I did many times before and I actually wasn't expecting any status change. So I was checking and the status suddenly changed to driver on its way. Holy shit! So I immediately quit windows and head home as fast as traffic would allow me hoping I would not miss it. When I got home there was nothing there so I took the elevator to my appartment I opended the door and only seconds later the doorbell rang! What luck! So I gladly paid the money to the driver and carried 40 lbs of package upstairs. Unpacking was I bit of a pain because of the 10 cu ft of charded foam chips that pretty much flew everywhere. Unwrapping, changing the connector and cleaning up took me 90 minutes or so. The machine is very well made. I've been trying it since then. Cutting out pieces of I'm not sure what the material is but to seperate the machine from the floor because it makes quite a bit of noise on a wooden floor. Especially when it has to push hard. The machine is the 1/4 hp Kong and I'm so glad I didn't take one of the 1/8 models. The machine is powerful but at low speeds and a tight hole still somewhat more juice would be nice. Because then it's making quite a bit of noise. The first thing I noticed while trying is that it is really HARD! I use a 2.2 inch diameter dildo that I can push up my ass about 11 inches. But an 8 inch stroke even at low speeds like 30 spm is someting I was certainly not used to. Although I though I was. But it is so hot. My ass has a great tingling feeling now that I've never experienced before.

[Buster]

i would buy both machines.
darn, jkad! no pics?

[injegaatje76]

I'm looking for a camcorder. Flash or HD and good picture also if the lighting isn't that good. Still undecided about that.

[hole4hand]

ok heres my question again would you rather be fucked endlessly by a fucking machine
or sucked off relentlesly by a venus2000 milking machine

[bighole]

I would choose the kong because i could strap a 12" long 4" thick dildo to it and have it penetrate me and wreck my hole

[JamesG52231]

For what it is worth, I have been considering a fuck machine for a long time. As part of my research, I talked to Ken, and Ken's Twisted Mind (.com) and he gave me a lot of information on the machines.

Basically, a lot depends on how you intend to use it. I want a machine that is capable of handling the largest dildos with enough power to spare for both low and his speed operation and good speed control.

Ken suggested his "Monster Cock" machine. It has the power and torque to handle bigger machines. He also suggested that I use a oversize standard dildo attachment plate instead of the vac-u-lock because there are no vac-u-lock dildos big enough for me anymore.

He also said that for most people, who are into regular sized dildos, any machine will work, it just becomes a matter of reliability and quality. But, for those of us into larger toys, power and torque are the key.

[JamesG52231]

ok heres my question again would you rather be fucked endlessly by a fucking machine
or sucked off relentlesly by a venus2000 milking machine

FWIW - I'd MUCH rather be fucked endlessly with a fuck machine. My dick is useful for some stuff, butt the best orgasms cum from being fucked - hard. Just my opinion. I'm sure there's as many opinions on this topic as there are opinions. LOL

[injegaatje76]

For what it is worth, I have been considering a fuck machine for a long time. As part of my research, I talked to Ken, and Ken's Twisted Mind (.com) and he gave me a lot of information on the machines.

Basically, a lot depends on how you intend to use it. I want a machine that is capable of handling the largest dildos with enough power to spare for both low and his speed operation and good speed control.

Ken suggested his "Monster Cock" machine. It has the power and torque to handle bigger machines. He also suggested that I use a oversize standard dildo attachment plate instead of the vac-u-lock because there are no vac-u-lock dildos big enough for me anymore.

He also said that for most people, who are into regular sized dildos, any machine will work, it just becomes a matter of reliability and quality. But, for those of us into larger toys, power and torque are the key.

I bought this Kong machine which is over twice as powerful and I wouldn't mind if it was more powerful still. I've a dildo which is 2" diameter (dick dildo from misterb). It has no trouble pounding if it's inside. But it won't penetrate if your muscle is closed. At low speeds it's just not as powerful. I guess the Monster Cock is only worse. The disadvantage of Kong though is the noise.

They're right about the vac-u-lock. The biggest vac-u-lock is not much fun. And velcro is useless, too. Attaching the dildo is an art in itself.

[JamesG52231]

thank you for the information. Sadly, I don't have $1,500 to spend on a fuck machine, so I am hoping the $700 price tag on the Monster Cock will still put me into a fuck machine with enough power to fuck me senseless.

I am intrigued by the attachment problem. In the videos I have seen it looks like a modified piece of PVC pipe that has a screw on cap seems to be the most secure for handling large dildos (of course, that only works with dildos that have balls so there's something to grip. Everything else seems to be kind of a waste to me. I am glad to hear that your experience echoes my mistrust of the connectors.

Do you have any suggestions for better methods of dildo attachment?

[HansIndeep]

Large toys can have a blind hole cored in the end and then used on a mount similar to vac-u loc. Sharpen the end of a piece of metal conduit with a file. A jagged edge cuts best. Wet the inside of the tube with water and slowly twist the tube as you press it into the end of a toy using significant force. Cut the core 3-4" deep. The core material will most likely not come out when you remove the tool. Pull and rip it out with a pair of needle nosed pliers. This will leave a hole in the end of the toy.
You can make a mount similar to a vac-u-loc by mounting a 1/2" carriage bolt through a 1" barbed plastic tubing coupling. This mounting technique works for securely mounting toys on machines, chairs, harnesses....plenty strong for a brutal manly fucking.
The attached shows this set up and use on my 70 lb pendulum.
Tools are changed by inserting a finger between the toy and mount to break the vac seal while pulling it off.

Cheers!

Hans

[sltffbottom]

I've been fucked by a fucking machine before and loved it, but have never tried a milking machine so would like to try it

[AtlantaB]

I think I get the idea Hans. I'm just wondering where you would buy the barbed plastic coupling. I don't seem to have seen these in stores. I guess it's a kind of hose connector, right? And if I had the choice I would buy the heavier, more powerful machine.

[HansIndeep]

Check out the plumbing section of a hardware store for the hose/tubing barbed coupling. The other hardware can all be sourced there too.

Have FFun!

Cheers!

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[HotBottomMan]

I own a Big Daddy from Orgasm Alley - (orgasmalley com /products) which at the time I purchased was the best for deep strong Anal Fucking. It's Horsepower and Torque - 1/8th HP, and 40-44 in-lbs.
They have a Orgasm Alley Comparison Guide - (orgasmalley com /comparison) which may be helpful.
I think the most important factors to consider are Horse Power, Torque and how you plan to use it .
Horsepower and torque are two widely misunderstood characteristics of motors. They're also critical in the design and selection of an excellent sex machine! Briefly:

- Horsepower describes how much work a motor can do.
It incorporates both torque and RPM (revolutions per minute, or speed). With a gearmotor, the relationship between horsepower and torque also depends on the efficiency of the geartrain.

- Torque describes how much force -- pushing power -- a motor can provide.

Of the two, torque is more important in assessing sex machine performance. If the resistance exceeds the motor's ability to push, it will "stall" or stop. Obviously not something you want to happen! Based on extensive experience as a designer and user, I feel a decent sex machine must provide at least 20 in-lbs (inch-pounds) of torque. More is definitely better than less, and there's no upper limit... until you consider a motor's size and weight

If you're having intense anal orgasms with strong contractions causing your rectum to push outward with sphincter muscle spasms, this may cause the machine to stall or even stop.
My Big Daddy machine produces up to 44 in-lbs of Torque. Sometimes it stalls when I'm having these intense anal muscle spasms pushing outward. And the dildo will pop out. Dildo length and stroke length may affect this happening.
I've learned to not stop playing when this happens, but to relax, put on a larger dildo and push the dildo back in for more machine fucking.
The Big Daddy machine's Stroke speeds are 0 to 180 strokes per minute
Sometimes I will play for hours using multiple dildo sizes and having so many anal orgasms I lose count and almost pass-out. This causes My RoseBud to protrude from this pleasure.
When purchasing a machine for over $1,000. I study the different specifications and determine what's best for me.
I would like to find a Top who is knowledgable and experience enough to help me feel what Fisting Orgasms are like. I live in U.S.- NC. send me a note if you're interested.

[AtlantaB]

What size dildo do you put you on. What's the max the machine will manage, or doesn't it really matter?

PS I found a barbed connector such as Hans describes in the gardening supplies section, subsection irrigation, of the hardware store. It was connected to a valve but you could cut that part off.

[alongeasy]

If u have more money, y not buy all. Fucking machine and also milk machine. U can play all if u want. infact can make a routine excercise with all.

[injegaatje76]

What size dildo do you put you on. What's the max the machine will manage, or doesn't it really matter?

You can't put really big dildos on such a machine. You can sit on a big dildo and nothing will happen while your whole weight is puching on it. That's probably a 10 to 20 greater force than the fucking machine can deliver. Once the dildo is inside, you don't need that much force anymore, but you can still hear the motor having trouble pushing it in (and my machine dilivers more torque than the big daddy). The biggest dildo I have is 2.2 inch diameter at strokes up to 10 inch (it can do 12, but I can't).

[AtlantaB]

Okay thanks for the info injegaatje

I guess if you want to ride a big one you need to insert the dildo first, before starting the machine. Is that possible? I have no experience of machines, but the idea appeals.