Stale Poppers

[owen2032]

Hey guys,

I've noticed that even stale poppers vasodilate blood vessels. I don;t get as good a head rush as a fresh bottle but the heart rate does increase so I guess it must mean the BP drops due to dilated vessels right????

[Douglas]

for me it's a big headache...

[owen2032]

Here too but this is due to the increase in heart rate and dilated vessels in the brain

[str8jkt]

I have been using same bottle for months, and though they are stale in today's economy you gotta get the most out of the poppers. The rush is indeed gone for the most part but yes, you are correct. They still work but I liken it to a watered down alcoholic drink, it'll do the job but takes more.

[bobz]

I do know that you can keep them fresher if kept in the refridgerator but I didn't know you could freshen them up once they have gone flat.

[owen2032]

You can to a certain point but never to the same freshness they had when first opened.

this article WON'T show you how to do that but will provide you with alot of info on exactly what poppers are and how they work etc...

http://www.poppershop.eu/en/faq.html

[AtlantaB]

A little bit of dry glycerine = glycerol in your poppers will absorb the water in the poppers and perk them up.

[owen2032]

Dude I don't know how you do it but I tried it (one drop in the bottle) and it did absolutely NOTHING for it. What type of glycerin did you use, how much did you add and on what brand of poppers did you use it on. Big bottle or little bottle?

[oldie4ffun]

all of the above is correct - to a certain stage.
pp in itself is a very sensitive, instable chemical. moisture, temperature are the enimies.

pp decomposes into some type of alcohol [ which also has a certain effect ] and an acidic component. therefore also 'stale' pp is 'working' but to much lesser degree.

it is widely known and recommended to preserve pp by storing in a tightly closed bottle in a fridg.
also to add some drying agents after opening slows down the decomposition [remember the white globules in some types of pp ].
important is to neutralize the acid. this can be achieved by adding a tiny bit of dry, waterfree baking soda.

there is no realistic way to prevent pp going stale after longer time.

so - we should better use it, may be with a friend ...

[owen2032]

What is PP? and if it's poppers which I'm guessing it is. why do you call it PP? Where did that term come from.

In anycase,

What you're saying is that if we add a "drying" agent such as glycerin according to AtlantaB or baking soda according to you, to already stale poppers it won't do anything at all to rejuvenate it.

So I guess you're saying that if we want to preserve the poppers we need to add either the baking soda or the glycerin to a fresh bottle.

Can someone please confirm if this works and if so, do the additives (glycerin or Baking Soda) change the effect one feels when using them.

[crotchshaver]

Chemically speaking, a "drying" agent would work by reacting with the water that has condensed into the poppers bottle to bond with the H2O, thus removing it from the poppers chemical.

OTOH, adding baking soda would lower the pH or acidity of the poppers chemical.

Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test either method.

[AtlantaB]

I have tried the glycerine method.
I was quite impressed with the results.
But I seem to remember that Owen was not so impressed.
It could have been that my glycerine, which was fresh from the pharmacy, was drier than Owen's.

A chemical drying agent can be prepared from Epsom Salts (magnesium sulphate)

[owen2032]

Yeah I found that it didn't work at all. Atlanta, can you provide a pic of the glycerin you are using? Also, how much did you add and on what brand of poppers did you use it on. Big bottle or little bottle?

Please be as specific as you can so we can solve this mystery.

[crotchshaver]

In my earlier post, I should have said "adding baking soda would lower the acidity by raising the pH of the poppers chemical."

[owen2032]

and what does lowering the acidity result in??? Does it absorb the moisture?

[crotchshaver]

and what does lowering the acidity result in???

That was just a response to oldie4FFun's statement about poppers becoming acidic and adding baking soda to counteract the acidity. I don't know that poppers can become acidic, but if they do, then I do know that adding baking soda would make them less acidic. What the acidity of the poppers has to do with their effectiveness is something oldie4FFun or someone else will have to answer.

Does it absorb the moisture?

I wouldn't think so. Adding water to an acid makes it less acidic by diluting the acid. Adding baking soda to an acid makes it less acidic without diluting it.

What we need to keep in mind is that the chemical we call poppers is in a LIQUID state. For it to do us any good, we must inhale it in a GASEOUS state. Liquids become gaseous as their temperatures increase and gases become liquid and their temperatures decrease. So our goal is to increase the volatility of the poppers when we're using them and decrease their volatility when we're storing them. Keeping them in the freezer lowers their volatility, but causes contamination with water when the poppers bottle has been opened.

When you put an open bottle half full of poppers into the freezer, the other half is filled with air. That air naturally contains water vapor. Depending on where you live and the humidity, that can vary considerably. When you put the bottle back into the freezer, the water vapor in the air trapped in the bottle is going to condense into ice, and when you take it out and let it warm to room temperature, the ice melts into water, which dilutes the poppers and lowers its volatility during future inhalations.

[owen2032]

Well in order to do that we need to find out what substance we can add to the liquid that will neutralize the effect water has on poppers without it altering the full effects poppers are famous for.

Atlanta, you still haven't answered my question. Can you please give us your input here AND again be as specific as possible!!! since you're the only one who claims to do it successfully then we need to know exactly what you are using and on which poppers you're using it on and HOW. If I can reproduce your results exactly I'll post a detailed procedure.

Thanks

[owen2032]

OK guys,

I'm sure you have done this before but I've never seen it on this forum so here it is.

Take 2 sheets or toilet paper and hold it in half to look like one sheet.

Fold the sheets so that one end fits your nostril with enough to leave about 1.5 inches sticking out of your nostril.

Stick the end that does NOT go into your nostril into a bottle of your favorite poppers (not too much or you'll soak the entire tissue)

Stick the clean end in one nostril, block the other one off and breath in slowly.

I tried this method on a stale bottle of poppers that was left in indirect sunlight for three days and it was like a popper punch in the face. I was sooo fucked up and rode my dildos like crazy!!!

I call it popper shots

Try it!!! :)

Warning: Try it on a stale bottle first and if it floats your boat try it on a fresh bottle.

[oldie4ffun]

hey owen,

pp = poppers [ seems to be typed like that from many, especially from 'lazy' typists like me].
the remedies mentioned [ baking soda, glycerol] can only prevent pp from further going stale. they cannot 'repair' . only slow down further loss of effect.
what already is gone, is gone.
glycerol - some question whether it is doing something at all - 'eats the water'. whereas baking soda also kills the acidic smell. but do not add too much!

anyway - the best is to add a bit of that at first use.

keep in mind, there is nothing, which can preserve pp for a longer time...
use, share, have fun!!!

[smokinkicks]

Tons of great info in this forum! I am very new to poppers; have only used for 2 sessions. Being so new, I'm not sure I would know if the poppers I have used have gone bad (they were borrowed from a friend who has had them for several months). I do get the rush after a few seconds, but the effect is gone within 1-2 minutes. Is that typical? Or does that mean this bottle has lost some potency?