Stretching entrance to sigmoid?

[crotchshaver]

What's the best strategy for stretching the second gate between the rectum and the sigmoid colon?

For the longest time, I had little difficulty getting slim objects up to 5 inches in circumference through the opening into my sigmoid a total of 12 inches deep. However, every time I tried to get a toy 6 inches in circumference through, it simply wouldn't go past the second gate.

The next-to-last time I was able to play, I was able to get a new toy with a circumference of 5.5 inches through the second gate and about 14 inches deep total. The last time I was able to play, I got the same toy about 16 inches deep and then was finally able to take an anal probe with the first ball 6 inches around all the way through the second gate.

When I was stretching for width, I moved up in half-inch increments of circumference, and when I felt I could take one width without undue pain, I would start trying to take a toy a half-inch larger around. That strategy seemed to work really well for me.

Do you think the same strategy would work for depth? If yes, would you say in your experience that it takes more time, less time or about the same time to stretch one's inner gate into the sigmoid as opposed to stretching the outer anal sphincter?

[hballman12]

I used toys to open up for depth. I simply used the toys that I used for width at the outer hole and sat on them, gently pushing them in til things started stretching open. I remember clearly one session where, all of a sudden, a ring (probably second) just stretched and opened and allowed the toy to slide through. This stretching was all done with care and gently but firm play, and lost of lube.

Be careful with toys, particularly at depth. Listen to your body and don't overdo it. I continue to use toys some now for depth, but mostly rely on a man's experienced fist. Last night, I got an XL fist into the descending colon for the first time. Got past that ring that is the junction between the sigmoid and descending colon. It was awesome!!!

[AtlantaB]

Start with a standard 12" double header.

After a while you should be able to insert it completely and push it back out again.


The next step is to use a thicker toy with fair degree of flexibilty and a tapered shaper.
I used this one

http://www.sex-versand.com/images/11701747_00b.jpg

With time you should be able to push it in so that it entirely buried in your butt (don't push it in entirely though).

After that try playing with a longer toy with a good thickness.

One I use a bit is a double ender from Creative Mouldings called Richard.



As I wrote elsewhere recently I managed to sink the large crack stuffers bobbin with delicious effects

http://www.crackstuffers.com/store/images/cs/Newproducts/BB01.jpg

When my partner fists me nowadays it's the area at the top of the rectum and the sigmoid that give me the most pleasure.

[bdluver]

First, recognize that everyone is different. I wanted to take a ten inch head twelve inches deep, I have suceeded stretching into the second stage by steady pratice with ever increasing sizes over time (close to two years). I have used several sizes during the same sesssion stretching and relaxing. But it takes time to be able to finally move the bigger size toys. However, once there the reward is worth the work. Practice and patience is my advice. Have fun getting off.

[owen2032]

My question is how did you guys get past the pain of stretching the entrance to the sigmoid. It really hurts for me

[crotchshaver]

Well, I guess I would say that I stopped trying to push a big toy into my sigmoid before I experienced any really significant pain.

There was a certain amount of discomfort after the two new, larger toys went through, more at first then lessening as I became accustomed to it.

For the next couple of days, I had that "gee,-I never-knew-that-muscle-was-there" feeling whenever I stood up or sat down, but it never rose to what I would call discomfort.

[owen2032]

Every time I play with stretching the entrance to the sig I feel sore in an area an inch or two left of my navel. This dull pain lasts about a day and a half. Do you think I'm doing something wrong or is this the pain that comes with training?

[bottomless]

Every time I play with stretching the entrance to the sig I feel sore in an area an inch or two left of my navel. This dull pain lasts about a day and a half. Do you think I'm doing something wrong or is this the pain that comes with training?

Be careful ! a dull pain lasting longer than a day may be a signal you need to stop for a while and resume paying the max attention.

[owen2032]

I agree Bottomless,

I usually stop playing for a day or so and just don;t go near the sigmoid for a few days. Thank God I can still go wide :)

[AtlantaB]

Hi Owen

Like I said earlier, start thin and work up slowly and then use a tapered dildo. It all takes time. I've slowly learned to go deep over the last six years.

[crotchshaver]

Every time I play with stretching the entrance to the sig I feel sore in an area an inch or two left of my navel. This dull pain lasts about a day and a half. Do you think I'm doing something wrong or is this the pain that comes with training?

That's sounds sort of what I experienced. I felt it after trying and failing the first two times to get the 6-inch first ball atop the Eisenhower toy at http://www.brownbottle.com/niceandslim.html then again after getting the 5.5-inch Double Down from FT through and then after getting them both through, one after the other.

It wasn't pain so much as it was discomfort. It was most noticeable when something solid or gas went through the gate and was alleviated once I passed it in the restroom. It was also noticeable for a few seconds, but less uncomfortable, when I sat down, stood up, bent over or knelt down.

The only time I really felt sick was after the first session of trying and failing numerous times to get the Eisenhower through. The next day, a few minutes after I awoke, I passed the dinner I ate right after the session. It went straight through me in about 7 hours. I had no appetite for the remainder of the day, but everything was back to normal the next day. At no time did I experience any bleeding or see any significant blood in the lube or the subsequent stool.

[Eddieff]

It definitely takes a long time. For me, part of the difficulty is that I find it hard to relax the second sphincter - rightly so, because we could do ourselves a serious injury! I just keep experimenting with different size and shape toys. From time to time having opened up a bit more, I go back to a toy that wasn't going anywhere, and find it's just right for the next stage.
Also, its important to be completely clean - the sphincter doesn't want to open if its holding something in.
After many years, I can accommodate a 10" circ. dildo a full 12".
Patience and persistence is its own reward!
Ed

[ffbbtopvers4u]

Hope slow and easy will do it for me also. There is nothing like the touch of a patient and experienced top fister.

[AtlantaB]

When I first started playing deep I found that an insertable "wand" type vibrator (like a bullet on a stick) was a good way of relaxing higher up in the rectum. They have names like "Flex-a-pleaser" and "The Gerbil"

[bobz]

Like many of you, I started with an 18" double headed dildo and then moved on to an 18" thicker dildo. Go very slow and let the dildo slide in slowly. You will feel less like pushing the big thng back out.

[cumdrinker]

I stretch till my body gives out
I love when my legs get weak and my asshole gushes

[billybottom4]

where to find tapered dildos for sig opening. Thank for u help

[crotchshaver]

where to find tapered dildos for sig opening. Thank for u help

http://www.brownbottle.com/niceandslim.html

[beefykeef]

Would anyone recommend any fruit or vegetables that could be used as I can't seem to get hold of the really big dildo's where I live?

[owen2032]

eggplant!

[crotchshaver]

Eggplant is great for stretching the outer ring for width, but if you want to stretch the opening into your sigmoid, you need something more flexible and a lot narrower. Honestly, I can't think of a natural product that's suitable.

[billybottom4]

thank u Crotchshaver for the link to the probes, which one do u suggest.
thanks

[crotchshaver]

Of these, the Eisenhower, most definitively to start with. The tip is only about 4 inches around, so it goes through the gate into my sigmoid easily. The first ball on mine is 6 inches around, not 5.5 as the description says.

As I said earlier, I was already able to take a 12-inch toy 5 inches around all the way in, with the upper third of it in my sigmoid. The first two times I tried Eisenhower, only the tip would go through. Then I got the Double Down 5.5 from Fort Troff, was able to take about 14 inches of it the first time and 16 the second session. After using it, I was able to get the Eisenhower all the way in, with first ball going all the way into my sigmoid.

I also purchased the Fahrenheit on the same order. Its first ball is 6.5 inches around. Once I'm comfortable taking the Eisenhower, I'll attempt the Fahrenheit.

[billybottom4]

Thank u for ur wonderful help. I will let u know how it goes.

[xor44]

Thanks for the suggestions in ths file. I wonder: when I pass the second sphincter and comes to the sigmoid, how can I go further to depht for after the 'entrance' there is a curve wich avoids going deeper.

[AtlantaB]

Yes there is a curve.
To go deeper you need a flexible toy or hand and a lot of patience.
With practice the curve becomes accustomed to being straightened out.
You should proceed with the greatest of care because most fisting injuries occur at the sigmoid.